28 March 2014

Anatomy of a Schuetzen Underhammer



Dear readers, I do apologize for the lapse in features of late; I have been busy with several issues. One of my highest priorities has been a redesign of my beloved Faeton rifle. For many years I have been working to refine the design and finishes of the Faeton and I am near completion of the project. It won’t be long before I will unveil for you my new Peerless Faeton™. Believe me when I say that it will be worth the wait.

For those of you new readers who are unfamiliar with the Faeton, scroll to the bottom of this page for a close up of the Faeton.

On another note, several years ago (can’t believe it’s been that long) I published a photo of an experimental schuetzen underhammer based upon my earlier Zephyr pattern. Since then I have received quite a number of inquiries about that Zephyr Schuetzen expressing a desire for close up photos showing the design features – especially, the rear sight. Since I have long ago sold that rifle, I will share what I have and trust that your imaginations will fill in any blanks. You can always email me if you have specific questions that the pix don't address.

 Zephyr Schuetzen


Schuetzen rifles are a unique breed and express design concepts that seem exaggerated to the untrained eyes. But when you understand the game, you will see that the schuetzen design makes perfect sense – as an offhand rifle. Understanding of the concept leads to an appreciation of the beauty of the form as some schuetzen rifles are truly functional art. I like to think that the Zephyr Schuetzen was one in that class.

 Vintage view of Harry Pope demonstrating
the proper schuetzen offhand shooting stance.

Clicking on any of the images will enlarge them for easier study of details. Clicking the White X in the upper right corner will return you to the text.
   

The exaggerated features of the schuetzen rifle are designed to provide the perfect ergonomic fit of rifle to shooter for 200-yard offhand shooting. The idea being that the shooter simply stands in a comfortable, un-strained offhand pose and the rifle fits the pose perfectly.


 The extreme sculpted cheekpiece provides a very comfortable face-fitting support while the light Swiss buttplate helps hold the rifle firmly on the shoulder. This buttplate is actually quite large and flat and distributes recoil very well making the 20-shot string less fatiguing and more comfortable to shoot.

 

Coupled with the unusual forward-arcing finger rest, the well-proportioned thumb rest on the right side of the buttstock allows full control of the rifle by the right hand while still isolating trigger finger motion from adverse influence on the rifle while squeezing off the shot.


 In my version the forearm provides a palm rest that keeps the left hand away from the upward swinging hammer. Or if the shooter is one who rests the forearm on his finger tips, there is a thumb hollow on the bottom of the forearm which makes for a secure support when using that hold.
 



Good sights are essential for 200-yard offhand shooting.Turning the sight disk (yes, it is wood) loosens it and allows course adjustment to get your shots on target quickly, while the calibrated thumbwheel allows for finer tuning to zero the shot. The round "window" on the tang of the sight allows viewing the number settings stamped on the thumbwheel for exact repeatability in sight adjustment. Each revolution of the thumbwheel raises or lowers the sight in .050-inch increments. A windage adjustment screw is also provided at the rear of the tang on the right side of the sight.


Perched at the muzzle is a fine bead sight protected by an ample globe. Together with the rear aperture sight, they create the clear and precise sight picture necessary to win at this game.



Because this rifle is strictly a range rifle, loading is accomplished with a range rod, hence no ramrod, which simplified construction.

Combining the ultra fast underhammer mechanism with a good solid offhand shooting platform such as the schuetzen seen here, resulted in a very accurate rifle. And while strange looking to the novice, these rifles handle like a dream and will out-shoot the capabilities of most shooters. To those in the know, it is truly a thing of beauty.

Well, I certainly hope that the Zephyr Schuetzen will provide some ideas and inspiration to you builders to be brave and go explore the possibilities that exist out here on the edge.

If you care to see some of my more recent work, come on by for a visit: www.rjrenner.blogspot.com

Cheers!


04 August 2013

Worthington Pocket Rifle

Well, we're back!

Sorry dear readers, that it's taken so long to get back to The Underhammer Society, but I've been really busy with new designs and projects that I will share with you loyal readers in the near future. But for now, I have a very interesting underhammer to share with you from our friend Bob Worthington. You may remember Bob's underhammers from earlier features which I've published here. You may access them by scrolling down toward the bottom of the page there on the right-hand side where you will see a link to Older Posts. Just click on the link and you can revisit some of our earlier features, including Bob's unique underhammers.

For the most part, Bob prefers to build his rifles on the Billinghurst style of action which was noted in the day for its amazing accuracy. Even today, slug gun builders utilize the Billinghurst action for its strength, accuracy, and simplicity of design.

Bob is a builder like me in the sense that he prefers to create functional art of his own design and not copycat those designs of old. As a musician once told me, you'll never get very far if you play other people's music. You have to find your own groove and ride it out. In my mind, Bob is the Salvador Dali of underhammer builders and I mean that with the highest regard to his art. He's willing to color out of the lines and I admire that spirit.



Bob's latest work is his Grey Haven Pocket Rifle which I believe you will find most interesting. But lest I steal his thunder, I'll let him share his story with you amidst the photos of his Pocket Rifle. Clicking on any of the photos will enlarge them for a closer view. Clicking the White X in the upper right corner will return you to the text.



"I'm not sure which came first; my fascination with underhammers, or pistols with removable buttstocks. I think they were nearly simultaneous, however, and originated from my perusal of a book that contained the Smithsonian Museum collection of firearms when I was about ten years old. My first view of an underhammer was a Billinghurst, the stock-mounted pistol was an early 1800's period dragoon. I guess it's no wonder that I would wind up making a
Billinghurst style pocket rifle. I'm just surprised it took me this long to get around to it, some 50 years later!





I've been making underhammer pistols for a few years now, along with two underhammer schuetzen rifles and a hunting rifle, as well as sidelock guns, but always in the back of my mind was that idea of marrying the short and long arms into one. I examined everything from the dragoon flintlock, the Civil War era revolver with shoulder stock, the Smith & Wesson model 320, but mostly the numerous versions that were produced as underhammers. Finally, this summer, I dove headlong into the project.


I began with the standard parts for the Billinghurst action that I get from Muzzle Loader Builder's Supply, (www.muzzleloaderbuilderssupply.com)which I have modified to use as pistol parts, eschewing the heavy tang-collar in favor of my own brass collar and standard breech plug-tang. Ryan at MBS also turned the Hoyt .36 cal. barrel for me, a slender 16" octagon-to-round with a double wedding band that is soooo pretty! (And shoots like a champ!)


The maple stock was cut out in one piece, to ensure matching grain and appearance, then separated for final shaping. The hardest part was the stock fitting and creating the join of stock and grip. The fitting is cut from aircraft grade aluminum, and is fastened to the buttstock with a thru-bolt and a wood screw, as can be seen in the pictures.



. A 1/4" bolt secures the buttstock to the grip, threading into the lower end of the trigger bar, forming a nice, strong and stable fastening, form-fit to the grip and lined with felt to prevent marring the grip, which also has a brass plate where the bolt passes through the grip



I have always finished my pistol grips bright with no stain, but for this critter, I decided to break pattern and go with a cherry stain under a satin finish, all Laurel Mountain products. The stock got my usual treatment of hunter's star and oval, with a brass oval and wire work on the right side. On my pistols, my logo of "star and four directions" goes on the buttcap, and on long guns, is engraved on the toeplate, so this gun got 'em both.



The spring, trigger, and hammer all were hardened and tempered, and the barrel fire-blued. The unique flip-up front and adjustable rear sight work well together, and add to the appearance of the gun.

The safety mechanism is a recent feature on my underhammers. I used to provide a half-cock notch, which worked fine, but sometimes made it difficult to use a capper, especially on the smaller calibers. I developed the pivoting safety, which positively blocks the trigger when cocked, and is easily unlocked with the trigger finger. It can be made for right or left-handed shooters. The brass safety pivots on a brass bushing and the screw that holds the trigger guard/mainspring in place. When the safety is engaged, a wedge blocks the underside of the trigger, and when it is disengaged, the wedge is moved aside and a slot allows the gun to be fired. Check the photos below for details.



Bob's unique trigger blocking safety lever.


I spent an afternoon at the range playing with loadings, and after several powder charges and patch sizes, 18 grains of 3f under a 000 buckshot (.350 ball) with a .016" pillow ticking patch led to a 1-9/16" group at 50 yards, the first shot of the group was an X! I'm happy, and now I can't wait to shoot our monthly black powder match, both pistol and rifle, with one gun!



 Beach's Combination Front Sight

Worthington Design Adjustable Rear Sight






I am offering this style, with choice of caliber, barrel length, sights and finishes, for $3200.00, and a carbine or buggy rifle style with fixed buttstock for $3000.00. To see my other underhammers and other stuff, please visit my website, www.greyhavenarms.com."









 











Our friend, Bob (Salvador Dali) Worthington
Grey Haven Arms


All photos copyright by Bob Worthington

Thanks, Bob, for sharing your beautifully unique underhammer Pocket Rifle with us.

Hopefully, you other makers will muster up the courage to share your work with us, too. This is an open forum for all you makers as well as non-builder aficionados, so come and claim your spot in the sun with the rest of us builders!

Cheers!




02 December 2012

Scrap Bin Underhammer


Through the years of writing this blog I have always tried to encourage you readers to design and build your own underhammer arms. While many of you may feel that you just don’t have the skill or machinery or ideas to build, some of you have risen to the challenge and have made some rather interesting underhammers which you have been so kind to share with me. Some of them were rather crude and not well thought out before starting the work, while others were better examples of careful planning before starting the building process.

I would like to share with you some work from one of our readers, Robert Bradley. Unlike some builders who start with a ready made underhammer action, Robert decided to build an action of his own design. He’s a machinist who enjoys tinkering with guns and states that it was pictures of underhammer guns in books at the library that inspired him to try his hand at building one of his own.

The Bradley Boot Pistol

 Although he is a machinist, Robert does not have access to much machine shop equipment. So, his design had to be simple enough for him to build without the advantage of the precision machinery that many people believe is necessary in order to fabricate an underhammer. He did most of the work with hand tools.

Top and side plates have been removed to reveal the heart of the action.
 
Robert claims that the design just sort of evolved as he started putting pieces of scrap material together. In fact, the ¼-inch flat bar that forms the one side of the "receiver" and the hammer, along with the sheet metal side panels, he retrieved from the scrap bin at work. 


Close-up of the hammer and nipple.


While Robert did contour his barrel, one would not have to do so if you didn’t have the machinery available. For that matter, you could take your seamless tube to a machine shop and have it turned to your favored contour if you really wanted a tapered barrel.




While studying the photos of Roberts boot pistol, you will appreciate his design more in understanding that his trigger is not of the typical form which pivots on a pin. Robert’s trigger actually slides fore and aft on a track. The front edge of the trigger body, or the “sear” as we might call it, slips into a slot in the hammer to captivate it in the cocked position. It’s a very simple and effective design which requires less precise angles than a typical hammer/trigger arrangement.


Bottom view reveals the trigger and its pusher spring to the rear of it.


The top-strap also serves as the rear sight.
 
Now that he’s proven the design with this prototype, I’m sure he will now refine it – like replacing the round-head screws with countersunk flat-head screws which will provide cleaner lines and sleeker appearance.He mentioned, too, that he wants to fit a stronger hammer spring. One thing I would strongly recommend is the addition of a flash guard over the nipple as this design is likely to spit cap fragments everywhere - especially into the trigger finger and his pals.

What’s up next on Robert’s design board? He mentions, “I work at a shop that stamps brass and other metals. I also got some 5/8" round stock today and think I'm going to make a pair of .36 caliber derringers out of it. I want something really compact, so, I'm probably going to go with a ring trigger and spring underhammer to keep them small.”
So, take a look at Robert’s boot pistol and see if it doesn’t spark an idea for you, too.

Thanks, again, Robert, for sharing your scrap bin boot pistol with us and good luck with the derringers. We'd like the see them when you're finished.

Cheers!

All photos copyright by Robert C. Bradley

06 November 2012

New GOEX Blackpowder!

This just in off the wireless...


Media Release

GOEX® sets a new standard of precision with match grade black powder
 
Olde Eynsford 
 
Minden, Louisiana – November 2012- 

Goex® Powder Inc., for over 200 years the manufacturer of the only American made authentic black powder, sets a new standard of precision with the introduction of Olde Eynsford
 
This new gunpowder is painstakingly crafted with only select grade materials and precision refined processes. Its uniformly tight grain size ensures consistent shot to shot performance. In response to competitive demand, higher velocities are attained with Olde Eynsford
 
Olde Eynsford is ideal for cartridge and round ball competitors who demand precise shot placement at long distances” said Tim Vaitekunas, Chief Operating Officer of GOEX Powder, Inc. “We believe this is the finest powder we’ve ever made in consistency and increased velocity.” 
 
Look for Olde Eynsford in the plastic 1lb cans at GOEX® dealers everywhere in early 2013. For a complete listing of distributors visit www.goexpowder.com, call 913-362-9455, or write to GOEX ®Powder Inc, 6430 Vista Drive, Shawnee, Kansas 66218.

GOEX®, the Tradition Continues 

As one who prefers REAL blackpowder, I am eager to try this new offering from GOEX.

Cheers!


01 November 2012

What did you say? Under whats?

I can't believe we are already past Halloween and many hunting seasons are nearly over. Where has this Summer and over a month of Fall gone? Amazing how quickly the time is flying. Although, on the brighter side, soon 2012 will be over and we can all stop worrying about the end of the world and get on with important things, like building rifles, hunting, fishing, camping, shooting - you know, the important stuff.



Recently I received an e-mail message from one of our readers who has a mission of reminding us hunters and shooter of the importance of protecting our hearing. It does amaze me how many shooters do not wear some type of hearing protection. Of course, when we're at the range it's required, but I see quite a few shooters out at the local plinking spot who don't wear any hearing protection at all.

John O'Connor has been so kind to share this bit of a reminder with us and for those of you who still have good hearing but don't wear hearing protection, take heed to John's "Public Service" advice.


Hi my name is John O'Connor, I am a father, outdoorsman and passionate about living a healthy lifestyle.  Over the past few years I have become more and more interested in hearing loss.  My father and grandfathers, who are and were all hunters, are affected by hearing loss.  I feel that there is a general lack of understanding around the issue and it is our job to spread awareness where we can.  Check out my new blog at bloggingwjohno.blogspot.com!



Protective Hearing Solutions for Hunters


If hunting is a pastime you enjoy, you probably also enjoy browsing through gun shops to view the latest firearms and ammunition options.  If you are gearing up for the next big hunt, be sure to purchase all the necessary protective gear to keep you and your fellow hunters as safe and healthy as possible while you are enjoying the great outdoors during an adventurous hunt.  Smart items to buy to protect yourself while you are hunting include bright orange hunter’s vests, emergency communication devices and protective gear for ears.  Purchasing protective hearing devices will allow you to hunt safely and know you are not damaging your hearing whenever a gun is fired.  If you already have damage to your hearing, investing in hearing protection is even more important to further protect your hearing levels.




Understand the Dangers of Firearm Noises

Even one single gunshot can have an adverse affect on your ability to hear.  Children and adults alike are prone to hearing damage if they go hunting without using protecting hearing devices.  My father often would go hunting or shoot his guns without the proper hearing protection.  Now in his late 70’s he is affected severely by hearing loss.  Although not the only cause, hunting has played a major roll in damaging his hearing levels.  My father still likes to get out and go hunting but now he wears hearing aids in order to amplify sounds and help increase his hearing. While at the range he always remembers to bring the proper hearing protection with him along with an extra pair in case someone has forgotten theirs.   
 
Devices to protect your hearing can be purchased when you go to a hunting store to purchase supplies and ammunition for your next hunt.  By grabbing a package of ear plugs or a pair of protective earmuffs, you will be taking excellent precautions to safeguard your hearing health while you hunt.  

If you want more sophisticated options for protective hearing gear, you may consider purchasing a pair of electronic earmuffs.  Electronic ear muffs automatically adjust sensitivity to noises to allow you to hear voices, footsteps and animal sounds while still providing maximum protection to your ears each time a gun is fired.

Getting Educated on Hearing Health Equips You to Hunt Safely

The American Speech-Language-Hearing Association released a helpful online article to educate people about the potential dangers that hunting without hearing protection can have on a person’s ability to hear. In the article, Michael Stewart, PhD, Professor of Audiology at Central Michigan University discusses how people who use firearms have a larger chance of suffering from hearing loss than people who do not use firearms.  


Hearing is a precious sense that many people take for granted.  If you hunt a lot or are a regular at the shooting range it is a must that you wear the proper hearing protection.  Protecting your hearing now can help save your hearing for the future!

Thanks, John, for this timely and valuable information.

Cheers!

30 September 2012

Adios to our friend, Wade Ingrham

Wade Ingrham

Wade Ingrham returned home

 I first met Wade back in 2006 when I had heard about his underhammer rifles. I looked him up and he informed me that he was retired and had locked up his shop. I encouraged him to get back in his shop and do what he loved to do - make more of his wonderful rifles. And so he did.

Recently, however, I received the following information from one of our readers, Barry Cook, who was kind enough to share this saddening news about our friend, Wade Ingrham. 

Mr. Renner,  I regret to inform you that Wade passed away on Saturday Sept 15, 2012.  I grew up with the Ingrhams and was (and still am) close friends with his sons. Wade and Irmalee were like my second parents to me as I was growing up in Midland, Texas. 

Anyway I had seen the post about Wade on The Underhammer Society blog a few years back and thought that this community would like to know about Wade's passing if not already.  I am blessed to have 2 of his underhammers (rifle & pistol) and have been in his shop many times over the past 50 years.

Wade was a true craftsman, fun to be with, lover of animals, tinkerer, Christian and a good friend.  I learned a lot about firearms from Wade and I'm thankful that I was able to see and visit him in July of this year.

Thank you, Barry, for sharing your experiences with us.

Here's a bit of Wade's story take from his obituary in the Midland Reporter Telegram:


Wade Ingrham, of Midland, was born on April 19, 1922, and left this earth on Saturday, September 15, 2012. He grew up in Peoria, Illinois, where he graduated from high school. 

Wade had a talent for machinery and he graduated from an extensive training school for professional machinists. He moved to California and acquired work as a machinist in 1941. At the outbreak of hostilities between the United States and Imperial Japan, Wade returned to Peoria and enlisted in the United States Army Air Corps. Wade served during the war at Laughlin Air Force Base in Del Rio, Texas. 

While in Del Rio, Wade met the love of his life, Irmalee Newton and they were married December 14, 1943. After being honorably discharged from the Army Air Corps, Wade moved to Midland, where he found work repairing office equipment. In 1947, Wade started his own office equipment business and retired from that industry in 1987. His many clients and customers remember him for his attention to detail and getting the right equipment for the job of his client, then maintaining it efficiently and cost effectively. 

Wade and his wife, Irmalee had been living in retirement since that time. Wade continued to enjoy his talent for fabricating implements and devices for his family and friends. His exceptional abilities extended to wood and metal working of many types. Wade is known across the nation for his unique and functional designs. 

Wade was extremely fond of the many dogs and cats he kept as companions for the family. Many of them were rescue animals. Also, Wade was a born-again Christian of the Baptist denomination and lived a life that was a testimony of his faith. 

You may recall my posts about Wade and his underhammer rifles. He was seriously addicted to underhammers of all sorts including underhammer flintlocks. Seen below is Wade firing his underhammer flintlock pistol, which worked flawlessly and according to Wade, had as fast an ignition as any cap-fired rifle.


Wade was a consummate experimenter and was also fond of underhammer harmonica rifles. The link below will take you to my earlier post where you can see Wade firing five aimed shots in less than 25 seconds from his harmonica rifle.

http://underhammers.blogspot.com/2009/07/wades-at-it-again-ingrhams-underhammer.html

The last time I talked with Wade we were brainstorming a three-shot 20-gauge harmonica shotgun. Now that would have been really interesting, but I guess we won't be seeing that one.


I am honored to have known Wade and to have been able to brainstorm with him over underhammer designs and to philosophize with him about this grand and beautiful journey - Life. Our sincere condolences to his family. He will surely be missed.

Here is another link to another earlier post on Wade's work. Take a look and I think you will agree that the man was a great talent.

http://underhammers.blogspot.com/2008/07/wade-ingrhams-underhammers.html


Via con Dios, mi amigo.



04 August 2012

Underhammer Bolt Action Rifles? This is a joke - right?



Greene Breechloading Underhammer Rifle
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When gun talk gets around to bolt-action rifles, the question might arise as to which one was the first U.S. military bolt action. Some might point to the Krag or perhaps the Winchester Hotchkiss or maybe the Remington Keene (don’t think those last two were ever really accepted by the Army). While all these designs were spawned in the late 1800s, there was one that preceded the earliest of them by at least a decade.

Those rifles mentioned were, of course, cartridge arms and this site is dedicated to muzzleloading arms and specifically those of underhammer design. So why in blazes are we talking about bolt action rifles!?




Well, prior to the War Between the States, there was an ingenious Army Colonel who apparently couldn’t sleep nights as he was obsessed with an idea for a new rifle for the Army. He must have reasoned that a rifle action based upon the bolt that held the outhouse door secure might work. His diligence brought us The First U.S. bolt action rifle – and it’s an underhammer at that! Yup, an underhammer bolt action.

Action with bolt in closed and locked position.

Patented on November 17, 1857, Greene's Breechloading Rifle, with its underhammer design and unusual .53 caliber oval-shaped bore, was the brainchild  of U.S. Army Lt. Col. J. Durrell Greene. Interestingly, Greene purchased the machinery for producing his oval-bored barrels from Charles Lancaster of London, England. Production of Greene's rifles began in 1859 and on through the early 1860s. Yes, that’s Civil War production.


Patented in 1857!

Greene’s rifles were manufactured by A. H. Waters of Millbury, Massachusetts with approximately 1,500 Greene Rifles being produced for sale in the United States. An additional 3,000 were made for the Russian government. Although the Greene was the first U.S. military bolt-action rifle, only 900 were actually purchased by the U.S. Army. But purchased they were and having had actual use in the war that gives the Greene the distinction of being the very first U.S. military bolt action rifle, according to the NRA Firearms Museum, www.NRAmuseum.com. 

As mentioned, the bore was .53 caliber with a barrel measuring 35" and an overall rifle length of 53.5". The design also included a bayonet and a buttstock compartment with trapped buttplate for holding cleaning accoutrements.


Action with bolt retracted for loading.


Unlike other percussion arms, these rifles required the percussion cap to be placed on a coned nipple that was located under the barrel. However, when the hammer was cocked there was nothing to hold the cap in place.  The result was that the cap could – and did - frequently fall off, often at rather inopportune moments.



(Of course, today we have solved that problem of the cap falling off the nipple in underhammer rifles with a very subtle redesign of the musket cap nipple - www.rjrenner.blogspot.com.)

Now here's where it gets really interesting. The Greene system required loading two bullets per shot. One of the bullets served as a projectile and one served as a gas seal. In the initial loading sequence, a bullet was inserted into the chamber, followed by a powder charge, then a second bullet was inserted behind the powder charge. No doubt the powder charge was contained in a combustible nitrated-paper cartridge. Don’t know that for certain, but just a logical guess. At least, that’s the way I would have done it.

The first bullet left the muzzle when the rifle was discharged, while the second remained in the breech to prevent propellant gasses from escaping past the bolt, thus sealing the chamber and breech. When the rifle was re-loaded, the former rear bullet was pushed forward into the bore, followed by another powder charge and a new "gas seal" bullet. The process would be continually repeated. Thus each bullet saw dual use - both as a breech gas seal, and as the projectile of the subsequent shot.


Clicking on this bottom view will allow you to see the striations on the nipple which helped secure the cap on the nipple.


We can imagine that the rifle would have been fast to load and fire (except when that pesky cap falls off the nipple - now where did that little bugger go?). The oval bore provided sufficient accuracy and it shot very clean without conventional rifling lands to catch the powder residue. What little bore-cleaning that was needed was done in a snap!  Aside from an occasionally dropped percussion cap, it seems that the rifle could sustain quite a formidable continuation of fire.

Quite ingenious really.

As to why the Greene didn't become famous for its role in the war as did all manner of other rifle designs, both good and bad, I can only surmise that it must have been politics - the bane of so many good ideas.

My thanks go to Ms. Caroline Simms at the NRA Firearms Museum for kindly arranging permission for us to share the photos of their prize with you readers. You can visit their site: www.NRAmuseum.com to see all the other amazing firearms in their fascinating collection.

BTW, if you come upon any other rare, weird, or otherwise interesting underhammers, please send me an e-mail with the link and we’ll see about sharing it with the readership.

As a little side note about underhammers, here’s a little quiz for you more scholarly types. Do any of you readers know what modern breechloading cartridge rifle is an underhammer action? If you think you know, click on the Comments link below and send your answer to me. I will post all the comments and see if anyone has figure it out.  Who knows, perhaps you know of some which I hadn’t yet considered.

We'll see.

Cheers!

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Roger Renner


Hi. I've been a student, admirer, and designer/builder of underhammer guns for over 30 years. In that span I've built over 200 semi-custom underhammers exploring the possibilities from the ordinary to the exotic. In 1996 I founded Pacific Rifle Company to explore the market's interest in a high-quality underhammer rifle. Thankfully, that interest was, and still is, there. I sold PRC in 2006 but continue to craft high-end underhammers as I am truly afflicted with underhammeritis - which can be contagious!